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					<title>I miss the great philosophers</title>
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								<![CDATA[<p>In 1977, the BBC made a hugely popular television series about philosophy. The title was <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDgw6ydB6lU&amp;list=PLhP9EhPApKE9Wx2lorEbG_e6UZJgEW9Vx&amp;index=1&amp;t=278s" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i>Men of Ideas</i></a>; the guests were all middle-aged or elderly; and the presenter was a highly erudite Labour MP. It is hard to imagine any of these things happening now.</p>
<p>A million viewers would tune in to watch Bryan Magee deep in conversation with a different distinguished philosopher each week. The two would be perched at opposite ends of a beige leatherette sofa, furrowing their brows over such matters as “the Frankfurt school” or “logical positivism and its legacy”. Magee’s idea of diversity was inviting Iris Murdoch to be an honorary man of ideas for one episode. No quarter was given to short attention spans either: ADHD was apparently not a big thing in the Seventies. Anyone in search of visual excitement had to make do with the sight of Charles Taylor’s blue velour suit, Noam Chomsky’s expansive hand gestures, or the elegant way A.J. Ayer puffed on his fag.</p>
<p>In 1987, and by then no longer an MP, Magee made another series: <i>The Great Philosophers</i>. This week it became available to watch on BBC4 and <a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/m002kx5r/the-great-philosophers" target="_blank" rel="noopener">iPlayer</a>. Magee’s specs have grown comically large and Ayer seems to have given up smoking, but otherwise the series format is similar to that of a decade earlier. Contemporary luminaries of Anglo-American philosophy are each given an intellectual titan or two as their specialist subject; and so we get Anthony Kenny on medieval philosophy, Hubert Dreyfus on Husserl and Heidegger, and Ayer on Frege and Russell, for instance.</p>
<p>With Magee’s skillful promptings, the viewer is treated to a fascinating tour of the cathedral of information nestling within each guest’s mind. Arguments and theories are treated not as historical curiosities but as live cognitive possibilities, and are taken very seriously. In an abstract world, the tense is always the present, even when you are talking about concepts from the past.</p>
<p>My favorite episodes from <i>The Great Philosophers</i> involve, respectively, Aristotle as illuminated by <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJC9o3bpujI&amp;list=PLhP9EhPApKE8B-g03RivIMt7llh1cyEGV&amp;index=2" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Martha Nussbaum</a> — the only female guest in the series — and <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba9-sCXRC-E&amp;list=PLhP9EhPApKE8B-g03RivIMt7llh1cyEGV&amp;index=13" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Bernard Williams</a> on Descartes. Nussbaum’s mannered, queenly delivery and vice-like grasp of her subject matter is exactly what you might expect from a person who once revealed that she didn’t listen to music when she went running, preferring to memorize an opera score from start to finish, then mentally rehearse it as she jogged along. In her episode, she also spends quite some time distinguishing between “wearing brown” as a contingent property of Magee, and “being human” as a necessary one.</p>
<div class="ref-ar"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2025/10/the-book-that-could-shake-the-popes-faith/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2025/10/the-book-that-could-shake-the-popes-faith/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><img decoding="async" src="https://stage.unherd.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/10/Jesus-Of-Nazareth-Movie-Essay-One.jpg?w=300" /></a><div class="content"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2025/10/the-book-that-could-shake-the-popes-faith/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span class="meta">More from this author</span></a><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2025/10/the-book-that-could-shake-the-popes-faith/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><h5>The book that could shake the Pope’s faith</h5></a><p class="author"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2025/10/the-book-that-could-shake-the-popes-faith/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span>By</span> Kathleen Stock</a></p></div></a></div>
<p>Williams, meanwhile, is a picture of relaxation in corduroy. Eyes crinkling and a smile perpetually hovering on his lips, the urbane Essex native and former RAF pilot is clearly having a whale of a time explaining the Cartesian method of doubt, why wax doesn’t lose its identity even when melted, and why the soul absolutely does not interact with the body through the pineal gland. As an undergraduate a few years after this was filmed, I would sometimes go to hear Williams give lectures on similar themes. Entranced, I’d watch as he would pace about the room, stare at the ground, or look out through the diamond leaded windows behind him, all the while uttering complicated sentences fluently without any notes. Rarely having done the reading beforehand, I had only the scarcest idea what he was on about, but the towering intellect and huge charisma were perfectly obvious.</p>
<p>Nussbaum apparently also found Williams mesmerizing. When he died in 2003, she wrote a lengthy, emotional tribute in the <a href="https://www.bostonreview.net/articles/martha-c-nussbaum-tragedy-and-justice/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><i>Boston Review</i></a>. In this extraordinary piece, she confesses feelings of admiration and love for her former teacher, but of rivalrous anger too. She remembers the first time she ever heard him lecture: “It will tell you a great deal about that moment that I remember both his dark green sports jacket and precisely what I myself was wearing: a pink minidress from Bergdorf Goodman and black fishnet stockings.” She also says that their friendship eventually became strained due to his developing interest in “Nietzschean anti-rationalism and pessimism”, and her inability to hold back criticism because of it. Another thing that appears to make her angry is remembering once going running in “orange running shorts with a pink top”, then being told afterwards by Williams, who had seen her in motion, that “the primary qualities were acceptable, but the secondary qualities rather off”. To this, she complains that “women live in objectification the way fish live in water” — a point which seems slightly disingenuous, given all that previous sartorial detail.</p>
<div class="su-pullquote su-pullquote-align-left">&#8220;Williams died in 2003, far too early; but at least he missed the vituperative hellhole the philosophy profession would become a decade later.&#8221;</div>
<p>Williams died in 2003, far too early; but at least he missed the vituperative hellhole the philosophy profession would become a decade later. Cheered on by a pitiless online mob, harsh, career-wrecking punishments were meted out for what had been treated as mild and forgivable infractions only a few years before. A question, already artlessly foreshadowed in Nussbaum’s memorial for Williams, became prominent for many women philosophers in the 2010s: is my fellow male philosopher my colleague, friend, lover, or deadly enemy? Several prominent thinkers discovered the narrative could switch from one answer to another overnight; and that if <a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2013/10/colin-mcginn-sexual-harassment-case-was-the-philosophy-profs-story-that-clear-cut.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">it did</a>, the world you thought you knew would melt around you like Descartes’ wax.</p>
<p>One famous case involved John Searle, author of the famous “Chinese room” test for machine consciousness. Searle can also be seen in <i>The Great Philosophers</i>, talking with lucid brilliance about <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_hQpvQYhOI&amp;list=PLhP9EhPApKE8B-g03RivIMt7llh1cyEGV&amp;index=10" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Wittgenstein</a>. Thirty years later, he would be presented with a lawsuit accusing him of sexual harassment at Berkeley, where he had taught for most of his life. A petition, signed by thousands of alumnae, would see him stripped of his emeritus professor status. He <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/oct/05/john-searle-obituary?CMP=share_btn_url" target="_blank" rel="noopener">died last month</a> in a care home. According to a <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20251013161802/https:/www.colinmcginn.net/john-searle/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">former colleague</a>, Searle “never recovered” from the reputational loss.</p>
<div class="ref-ar"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2025/06/alasdair-macintyre-virtuous-outsider/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2025/06/alasdair-macintyre-virtuous-outsider/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><img decoding="async" src="https://stage.unherd.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/alasdair-e1749489566313.jpg?w=300" /></a><div class="content"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2025/06/alasdair-macintyre-virtuous-outsider/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span class="meta">Suggested reading</span></a><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2025/06/alasdair-macintyre-virtuous-outsider/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><h5>Alasdair MacIntyre: virtuous outsider</h5></a><p class="author"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2025/06/alasdair-macintyre-virtuous-outsider/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span>By</span> Terry Eagleton</a></p></div></a></div>
<p>In this respect then, <i>The Great Philosophers</i> puts us in mind of a simpler, more innocent time. We are invited not just to thrill at the originality and ingenuity of giants in the history of philosophy, but also to admire the improbably gifted, marvelously eccentric people on screen talking about them. What these people get up to in their personal lives is irrelevant; indeed, as one watches one can barely imagine them having any personal lives at all. And as we enjoy them showing off their prodigious discursive talents, we are also invited to try to understand complicated abstract ideas — for no useful or self-interested reason, but simply as a valuable goal in itself.</p>
<p>All of this is very old-fashioned, and not just because nobody has the requisite powers of concentration anymore. The concept of a “great philosopher” has been suspect for years, a bit too male and hierarchical for comfort. These days, it always has to come with lots of caveats. In the <a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002kx5m/remembers-professor-angie-hobbs-remembers-the-great-philosophers" target="_blank" rel="noopener">short film</a> which accompanied the broadcasting of <i>The Great Philosophers </i>on BBC4 this week, public philosopher Professor Angie Hobbs rushes depressingly quickly to the cliché that, as young female philosopher watching the show in the Eighties, “it was really important for me to see a woman on that sofa”. She also tries to justify the value of philosophy in the present day in instrumental terms, claiming that it helps people discern “the fake news and the conspiracy theories and the snake oil merchants out there”. This is a point I’m surprised any member of the philosophy profession can make with a straight face, given ongoing mass delusions therein.</p>
<p>But the truth is that the vast majority of the millions of viewers enthusiastically watching <i>Men of Ideas</i> and <i>The Great Philosophers</i> in the Seventies and Eighties were not at university, and had no desire whatsoever to be professional philosophers themselves. Fretting over equality issues, worrying about the latent prejudice of Thomas Aquinas or David Hume, or selfishly looking for inspiring “representation” was very far down the list of their priorities. And nor were they watching in order to improve their falsehood detection skills in ordinary life. Their aim was just to understand these enjoyable, fascinating, unusual ideas, as articulated by these enjoyable, fascinating, unusual people — for no motive other than sheer curiosity. I hear that corduroy is coming back into fashion. Perhaps we might also allow philosophers to be unreservedly great again too.</p>
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								<![CDATA[<p>“I told you so” has to be the most irritating phrase in the English language. It represents a claim to foreknowledge when, in truth, none ever existed. Take those now crowing that the failure of the EU vaccine roll-out demonstrates how right we were do decide to leave the EU. Of course, it doesn’t. Back in June 2016, not even the wildest imagination could have predicted Covid-19 and its consequences.</p>
<p>And what rankles most about all this Brexit triumphalism is that it distorts the reasons why many of us voted to Leave. I had no idea whether Brexit would be “a success”. And I didn’t vote for it because I thought it might be – I voted out of sheer principle: for me the nation state is the upper limit of democratic legitimacy. Others believed that co-operation was intrinsic to the European project, and voted for that. I respect that view, even though I don’t hold it.</p>
<p>Even more problematic, though, is how an essentially moral decision – and a clash of different principles – has been turned into a kind of glorified guessing game. One in which how things turn out is the only basis on which a decision should be counted as morally commendable. After all, if you save a child from drowning, and that child goes on to be some mass murderer, you don’t conclude that the saving act was a morally bad one.</p>
<p>The trouble is, if a decision is to be judged solely on the basis of its consequences, then we consign moral success to the swirling darkness of the future, with all its unknown unknowns, all its unintended and unexpected twists and turns. So we can never be confident that we have made the right call. In any case, at what point in the future might we judge a decision the right one – after a year’s consequences, after 10 years, a century? When do we close the book on a decision’s consequences, and proclaim some final judgment? Consequentialists don’t tell us because there isn’t an answer. In other words, they don’t have enough respect for the utter mysteriousness of the future, enough humility before the unknown.</p>
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<p>Kant understood the alternative — that we make many moral decisions on the basis of principle and not consequences. As he put it: “A good will is not good because of what it effects or accomplishes, because of its fitness to attain some proposed end, but only because of its volition, that is, it is good in itself … Usefulness or fruitfulness can neither add anything to this worth nor take anything away from it.”</p>
<p>This basic principle applies just as much to many who voted to Remain as it does to Leavers. I take it that many Remainers believe the basic principles of the EU are so morally commendable that they would regard their decision to vote as they did to be right, even if, over time, its “usefulness” seemed to tell against them. To this extent, I do not believe that the failure of the EU vaccine roll-out has anything significant to tell us about the rightness — or not — of the decision to leave the EU.</p>
<p>But I must acknowledge a deep problem with my position. For notwithstanding my commitment to principle over consequence, we do often accept the moral valence of consequence irrespective of intention. For example, in law, we broadly accept there is a difference between murder and attempted murder. In terms of intention, the two are indistinguishable. If I seek to shoot someone, and they trip just before the bullet reaches them, the difference between murder and attempted murder is nothing more than luck. The <em>mens rea </em>(“guilty mind” in Latin) is surely identical. Yet nonetheless, we treat the two actions differently. Success or failure does seem to have a moral significance here. And this moral significance is something that the philosopher Bernard Williams described as &#8220;moral luck&#8221;.</p>
<p>In his famous paper of the same name, published in 1976, Williams considers a semi-fictionalised Gauguin who makes a decision to leave his family and head off to Tahiti to become a great painter. For Williams, the question of whether he made the right — in some sense, the morally justifiable — decision hangs on something he could not possibly know: whether he would indeed produce works of great art. In other words, the view that would mitigate the abandonment of his family on the basis that he went on to produce some extraordinary works of art is a kind of retrofitting that could not have been justified at the time.</p>
<p>Williams’s essay set the cat among the pigeons. And it doesn’t feel to me like we have satisfactorily resolved the problems he raises. To what extent does future success – subject to the vagaries of change and chance – effect the rightness of a decision made? Like Kant, I want to defend an approach to moral decision making in which the rightness of the decision does not depend upon outcomes. Does the economic flourishing of China justify the human rights abuses of the Communist Party? No. The ends do not justify the means.</p>
<div class="ref-ar"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/03/the-cost-of-vaccine-caution/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/03/the-cost-of-vaccine-caution/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><img decoding="async" src="https://stage.unherd.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/GettyImages-1306653294-1-scaled.jpg?w=300" /></a><div class="content"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/03/the-cost-of-vaccine-caution/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span class="meta">Suggested reading</span></a><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/03/the-cost-of-vaccine-caution/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><h5>The cost of vaccine caution</h5></a><p class="author"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/03/the-cost-of-vaccine-caution/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span>By</span> Tom Chivers</a></p></div></a></div>
<p>There&#8217;s an apocryphal tale told about Zhou Enlai, the first Premier of the People’s Republic of China, being asked by Richard Nixon in 1972 whether he thought the French Revolution was a good thing. His alleged response, &#8220;It’s too early to tell”, would make for a refreshing contrast to the short-termism of the modern political mind-set. It shows a proper humility in the face of an unknown future. But there is a cynicism about it too.</p>
<p>For if this is how we are to judge the rightness of our moral commitments, how can we ever know if we have decided right about anything. And if so, then why bother with morality at all? Because the answer to any moral challenge can be “just wait and see”. And that is another way of saying that morality doesn’t count.</p>
<p>Kant’s “good will” — or what I would call principle — may not suit the technocratic and utilitarian approach to politics so prevalent these days. But without it, the question of whether an action was moral or not has almost no meaning, relegated as it is to the distant court of history. How convenient for our politicians.</p>
<p>Consequentialist leavers may have been lucky — for now. But that doesn’t mean they were right. Something else will no doubt turn up soon for the Remainers to cheer about. “I told you so” follows an opposite “I told you so” in an endless tit-for-tat. Never to be settled as history keeps on stretching out before us, with new things to argue about, debates over Brexit will go on and on. It’s like some hideous never ending Groundhog Day. The trouble with consequentialism is that it never allows you to move on.</p>
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