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					<title>Why is the Right so unattractive?</title>
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								<![CDATA[There's a reason disenchanted liberals won't switch sides]]>
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								<![CDATA[<p>Political tribes enjoy attacking their opponents. It is what they do. Far less appealing is the idea of applying the same criticism to your own side. No doubt this stems from a desire not to give ammunition to one&#8217;s political enemies. Air your dirty ideological linen in public and it’s likely your opponents will draw attention to it.</p>
<p>Still, there are times when a refusal to engage in self-criticism can be a hindrance to your tribe — as both the American Right and Left are now discovering.</p>
<p>Since 2016, the American Left has desperately cut itself off from reality: its unwillingness to concede that Donald Trump won the election precluded the Democrats from being able to consider why their candidate lost. But the American Right is equally capable of deluding itself. In fact, with Biden in the White House, it is now as much a problem for the American Right as it was for the Left during the Trump years.</p>
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<p>Absent any self-reflection, political tribes are condemned to return to the same question: what is it about their opponents that makes them so belligerently wrong? This is why Democrats and Republicans responded to the 2016 and 2020 elections in a similar fashion. What on earth was there to dislike about Hillary Clinton? What could possibly be said against the character of Donald Trump?</p>
<p>Sometimes, however, this lack of self-criticism is more profound. Towards the end of last year, I was invited to speak at the National Conservatism Conference in Orlando, Florida. Being, as I told one of the organisers, only about two-thirds in agreement with the conference agenda, I didn’t feel it was my place to give a speech. So instead, I took part in an interesting panel discussion with Dave Rubin, Sohrab Ahmari and the conference&#8217;s convenor, Yoram Hazony.</p>
<div class="ref-ar"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/11/the-sexual-revolution-killed-feminism/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/11/the-sexual-revolution-killed-feminism/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><img decoding="async" src="https://stage.unherd.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/2GettyImages-628953690-scaled-e1635706632224.jpg?w=300" /></a><div class="content"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/11/the-sexual-revolution-killed-feminism/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span class="meta">Suggested article</span></a><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/11/the-sexual-revolution-killed-feminism/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><h5>The sexual revolution killed feminism</h5></a><p class="author"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/11/the-sexual-revolution-killed-feminism/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span>By</span> Mary Harrington</a></p></div></a></div>
<p>It was a rich discussion, but we passed over too lightly a subject which demands serious focus. At one point during the panel, Dave brought up the popular talk-show host Bill Maher. In recent years, Maher has singled himself out on the American Left for his willingness to criticise the excesses of his own political side, in particular &#8220;cancel culture&#8221; and the &#8220;<a href="https://www.dallasobserver.com/arts/bill-maher-says-woke-culture-is-dangerous-12049263" target="_blank" rel="noopener">cult of woke&#8221;</a>. Dave suggested that, given how much Maher agrees with conservatives on these points, it is strange that he still identifies with the Left. In other words, why should he not come over and join the merry men of the Right?</p>
<p>There are a number of possible answers to this question. The first, which many conservatives would offer (while no doubt patting themselves on the back), is that Maher somehow lacks the bravery or courage needed to commit such an act of apostasy. He may have moved Rightwards, but he is not willing to concede as much.</p>
<p>The second answer, which I imagine Maher himself might offer, is that he hasn’t left the Left — the Left has left him. He has stayed precisely where he was, and remains as true to his principles as ever. There is, perhaps, some truth here. But this still fails to address the key question: why, in the face of the current Leftist orthodoxies, are so many on the traditional Left reluctant to admit they now have more in common with the Right?</p>
<p>After all, previous generations of American public figures had no problem with making a move from Left to Right and admitting as much. Both Irving Kristol and Norman Podhoretz flirted with Marxism before coming out for conservatism. British public life is also peppered with individuals who made similar journeys without any embarrassment: Malcolm Muggeridge, Paul Johnson and Kingsley Amis, to name but three.</p>
<p>Yet in America today, such apostasy is almost unheard of. There have been semi-regular defections from the Right, especially during the Trump era, when people such as Max Boot broke <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/10/11/im-no-democrat-im-voting-exclusively-democrats-save-our-democracy/">publicly</a> with their own side to support a Democrat president. But there is a glaring absence of any movement in the opposite direction.</p>
<p>Bill Maher, Bari Weiss and a slew of other liberals who have fallen out with their own tribe have chosen not to identify as conservative. And that should be a cause for concern. Rather than ignoring this trend, conservatives need to ask themselves: what is it about the Right that is so unappealing that people who agree almost entirely with its views resile from joining its ranks?</p>
<div class="ref-ar"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/12/what-the-tories-can-learn-from-the-american-right/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/12/what-the-tories-can-learn-from-the-american-right/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><img decoding="async" src="https://stage.unherd.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/3GettyImages-513221080-scaled-1-scaled.jpg?w=300" /></a><div class="content"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/12/what-the-tories-can-learn-from-the-american-right/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span class="meta">Suggested article</span></a><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/12/what-the-tories-can-learn-from-the-american-right/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><h5>The Tories can learn from the American Right</h5></a><p class="author"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/12/what-the-tories-can-learn-from-the-american-right/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span>By</span> Aris Roussinos</a></p></div></a></div>
<p>As it happens, I suspect the one of the answers to this question can be found in one of the speeches given at the National Conservatism conference. During his talk, the distinguished conservative scholar Patrick Deneen offered — and I do not say this to do him any injustice — a lament for the Fifties; for the change in people’s habits of dress, manners and sexual etiquette. I listened to all of this with great interest and considerable disagreement. But as I did so, I could not help thinking that here in a nutshell was the main reason why disenchanted liberals like Maher would never in a million years join the American Right.</p>
<p>All political and social movements have their own oddities and obsessions. Many of the obsessions of the American Right, however, are too illiberal to possibly win over anyone but that type of person who jumps political sides, boots and all, because they favour the political certainty of its all-encompassing ideological home. Why won’t thoughtful ex-liberals consider joining the Right? Well, perhaps it has something to do with the type of conservative they’d be associated with.</p>
<p>What liberal or former liberal would want to find themselves in an ideological movement in which opposition to the right to abortion, opposition to no-fault divorce, and a nostalgia for the era before the invention of the pill are commonplace? This isn’t to say that the conservative movement in America should not make these arguments. They can make them as much as they want. But they can hardly be surprised if others outside of their flock refuse to join them as a consequence.</p>
<p>At the heart of this lies a centuries-old tension in America between the worlds of politics and religion. It was always said that the genius of keeping religion in the background during the founding of America was that it allowed it to flourish in the foreground later on. By contrast, the centrality of the established church in England almost guarantees the obscurity of religion’s place in public life.</p>
<p>And yet in America, the desire on the Right to mix religion and politics remains a significant temptation. The National Conservatism conference was filled with a disproportionate amount of Catholic social doctrine, and it is not the first time I have observed this encroachment. Most gatherings of conservative intellectuals fracture along this same line. The <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_for_European_Renewal" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Vanenburg meetings</a> fell into this problem at the start of the last decade. And I was once at a meeting of conservatives on the continent where, on several occasions, an American participant gleefully referred to gay couples as being in “sodomitical relationships”. Should we be surprised that so many liberals instinctively revile conservatism?</p>
<p>All of which is to say that this overlap between politics and religion remains a special type of kryptonite to any separation-of-church-and-state liberal. And that would be a subject of niche interest were it not also for the fact that it is electorally disastrous for the American Right, however enjoyable it may be as a religious or intellectual enterprise.</p>
<div class="ref-ar"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/12/the-rise-of-rittenhouse-republicans/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/12/the-rise-of-rittenhouse-republicans/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><img decoding="async" src="https://stage.unherd.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/GettyImages-1139127443-scaled-e1638471910419-1024x594-1-copy-1.jpg?w=300" /></a><div class="content"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/12/the-rise-of-rittenhouse-republicans/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span class="meta">Suggested article</span></a><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/12/the-rise-of-rittenhouse-republicans/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><h5>The rise of Rittenhouse Republicans</h5></a><p class="author"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/12/the-rise-of-rittenhouse-republicans/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span>By</span> Jacob Siegel</a></p></div></a></div>
<p>As many as three in ten American adults are now religiously <a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/03/30/982671783/fewer-than-half-of-u-s-adults-belong-to-a-religious-congregation-new-poll-shows" target="_blank" rel="noopener">non-affiliated</a>; fewer than half of Americans <a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/03/30/982671783/fewer-than-half-of-u-s-adults-belong-to-a-religious-congregation-new-poll-shows" target="_blank" rel="noopener">belong</a> to a religious congregation. In such a world, the idea that a conservative movement can succeed while being intrinsically tied to religion — let alone one particular denomination — is a steer into the political wilderness.</p>
<p>After all, why would people who share 95% of your political attitudes not wish to join you? More often than not, the answer is not because of any lack of fortitude, but because of that 5% of beliefs you had hoped they might overlook.</p>
<p>Perhaps that small portion of ideas is worth fighting for; perhaps even to the extent that it’s worth alienating would-be conservatives. But these are questions the Right needs to answer, rather than blaming liberals for pointing them out.</p>
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								<![CDATA[<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">“We can’t stop here, this is bat country.”</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">I didn’t expect excitable millennials to quote Hunter S. Thompson at me, at a conservative event. But at</span><a href="https://nationalconservatism.org/natcon-2-2021/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">the National Conservatism II conference</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> in Orlando last week, </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">Fear And Loathging In Las Vegas </span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">was everywhere: the mood the night before kickoff had that exact sense of giddy incipient lunacy.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">For my adult life, being both young and a conservative has been deeply, irretrievably cringe. Not so here, where the modal attendee was a bearded, trim, often tattooed male Hunter S. Thompson fan, under the age of 25. NatCon II was where Conservatism Inc. met Conservatism Ink.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">The Conservatism Ink guys sported blue blazers and Richard Spencer haircuts. They made the bar noisy and excitable, added youth and buzz to events — and were notably absent from the centrepiece panel, in which the event’s organisers attempted to craft a ‘new fusionism’.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Here, conference organiser and</span><a href="https://burke.foundation/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Burke Foundation</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> chairman Yoram Hazony took to the stage alongside the Catholic integralist writer Sohrab Ahmari, whose 2019 article ‘</span><a href="https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2019/05/against-david-french-ism" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Against David French-Ism</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">’ saw the first full-scale battle within the American Right, between the liberals and the then still emerging ‘post-liberal’ strand.</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">For Ahmari, David French epitomised a Right-liberal thinking that conceded too much territory. By accepting the liberal idea that moral values should be kept out of the public square, the argument goes, conservatism merely becomes a strategy for losing more slowly. Instead, Ahmari states that the Right should aim for “defeating the enemy and enjoying the spoils in the form of a public square re-ordered to the common good and ultimately the Highest Good”.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">It’s hard to see, though, how this stance can easily be made to square particularly with Ahmari’s co-panellists Dave Rubin, a noted libertarian, and <a href="https://stage.unherd.com/author/douglas-murray/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Douglas Murray</a>, the <i>ne plus ultra</i></span><span style="font-weight: 400;"> of anti-woke right-liberalism.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">For me, this event encapsulated the NatCon’s quandary: what kind of alliance, if any, is possible between liberals and post-liberals? And, crucially, ordered to which values? Everyone on the panel was unenthusiastic about wokeness, at pains to stress that they weren’t rabid authoritarians, and seemingly unsure about how to resolve the question of how state power could align with moral values, without treading on at least some of their friends’ toes.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Hazony argued that America could and should re-Christianise its public square, and simply manage some kind of ‘carve-out’ for groups such as gay people and orthodox Jews. Murray, meanwhile, argued that the Church only had itself to blame for mass secularisation. (He didn’t quite say they were all nonces but it was heavily implied.) Ahmari, perhaps the lone post-liberal on the stage, was surprisingly conciliatory.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Afterwards, Conservatism Inc. raved about the discussion. At the bar, though, where they were ignoring the whole event, the Conservatism Ink bros were less sure. They drank bourbon and muttered that with anti-woke liberals such as <a href="https://stage.unherd.com/author/ayaan-hirsi/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Ayaan Hirsi Ali</a> on-board, nothing would ever change. Too big a tent means a lack of focus. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">It wasn’t just the Gen-Z raw-eggs-and-dank-memes boys. “I was into this before it was cool” is the abiding cry of hipsters the world over, and it was (more or less explicitly) everywhere over the three days of conference. But if the the purists of NatCon I </span>were complaining about liberal entryism, this isn’t just about new money coming into the movement. It’s also an effect of how radically the political backdrop has changed since 2019.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Between Brexit/Trump in 2016 and the pandemic in 2020, there was a widespread feeling that something new was needed to replace the technocratic ‘double liberal’ consensus. And indeed, since then something new has emerged, in the wake of Covid-19. It’s just not what was envisaged.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Back in 2019, people were dreaming about ordering Western state power to a more substantive moral programme than that of empty individual freedom and consumerism; a new, human-scale politics of meaning and necessary limits.</span></p>
<div class="ref-ar"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/10/would-you-sell-a-kidney-to-be-famous/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/10/would-you-sell-a-kidney-to-be-famous/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><img decoding="async" src="https://stage.unherd.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/2-GettyImages-1278893803-scaled-e1634143263764-copy-e1634207310186.jpg?w=300" /></a><div class="content"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/10/would-you-sell-a-kidney-to-be-famous/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span class="meta">Suggested reading</span></a><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/10/would-you-sell-a-kidney-to-be-famous/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><h5>Would you sell a kidney to be famous?</h5></a><p class="author"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/10/would-you-sell-a-kidney-to-be-famous/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span>By</span> Mary Harrington</a></p></div></a></div>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">And behold, the pandemic state of emergency did indeed shatter the consensus about individual freedom. Across the developed world, the liberal privileging of individual freedom has been replaced by a </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">de facto</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> acceptance that state power absolutely must be ordered to the common good, up to and including coercive measures where necessary. In other words: all politics is now post-liberal.</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">But inasmuch as we have achieved consensus on what ‘the common good’ means, it doesn’t extend much beyond ‘public health’, understood in bare terms as the preservation of physical life: lockdowns, masks, vaccinations and so on. The new Western normal is one of authoritarian regimes now visibly reluctant to relinquish their grip on a state of emergency.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">But these regimes are more, not less, technocratic — and there’s been no new politics of meaning. Instead, the last year and a half have felt like a relentless</span><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/03/were-living-in-a-pornstars-world/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">assault on everything that makes us human</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">: interpersonal bonds, organic social organisations, in-person contact.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">This situation has confused the hell out of the loosely post-liberal caucus who made up the intellectual backbone </span><a href="https://nationalconservatism.org/natcon-dc-2019/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span style="font-weight: 400;">of NatCon I in 2019</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">. It aimed to revive a more substantial nationalism capable of incorporating realist foreign policy; industrial policy; patriotism beyond divisive racial politics. There was a Republican in the White House; I’m told policy debates were detailed and impassioned. You never knew what might trickle up to actual centres of power. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">And the liberal mainstream was sincerely shocked by their suggestion that maybe state power and moral values should be aligned. Now, though, there’s no longer any need to make that case: in response to the pandemic, states across the West have enthusiastically seized power.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">The pre-pandemic post-lib pipe-dream was of a revived human-scale politics of meaning, to challenge the bloodless grip of technocracy and its mantra of never-ending progress. Post-liberals were happy to talk about limits and state power as means of pursuing such a politics of meaning. Now, plot twist: existing post-liberalism has ordered state power to a set of moral values that 2019’s national conservatives </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">really </span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">don’t like.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">So the ‘state power’ bit is settled in principle. (Though for conservatives under Biden, the question of how to obtain it for themselves is both open and, they’d argue, urgent.) The ‘moral values’ bit is a bitter battlefield — even within the national conservative caucus.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">With that in mind, it was perhaps inevitable that the programme trended negative: toward focusing on what we can all agree we </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">don’t </span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">want. Along with Hazony’s sincere but inconclusive panel effort at shaping a ‘new fusionism’, this meant plenty of speakers whose primary argument was not </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">for </span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">anything particular so much as </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">against </span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">wokeness. Playing conference bingo with a friend, we were obliged to delete ‘cultural Marxism’ from our cards a few hours in because it came up too often. </span></p>
<div class="ref-ar"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/09/satanism-is-everywhere/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/09/satanism-is-everywhere/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><img decoding="async" src="https://stage.unherd.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/GettyImages-1188134456-scaled.jpg?w=300" /></a><div class="content"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/09/satanism-is-everywhere/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span class="meta">Suggested reading</span></a><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/09/satanism-is-everywhere/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><h5>How Satanism conquered America</h5></a><p class="author"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/09/satanism-is-everywhere/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span>By</span> Mary Harrington</a></p></div></a></div>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">To my eye the most interesting attendees were those who sought to address the </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">how</span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;"> of power, or the </span><i><span style="font-weight: 400;">what </span></i><span style="font-weight: 400;">of values — without simply relapsing into complaints about wokeness. Informally, perhaps the neo-reactionary Curtis Yarvin (also known as </span><a href="https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Mencius Moldbug</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">) qualifies here. He ran a kind of three-day mobile conference plenary, in which (seemingly without ever needing to draw breath) he addressed a little flock of the Conservatism Ink bros who followed him like ducklings.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Elsewhere,</span><a href="https://newfounding.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">New Founding</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">’s Matt Peterson outlined a plan for a commercial and cultural startup, aimed at propagating a positive lifestyle vision for the American Right. It was a for-profit entrepreneurial approach to moral renewal that felt both very American and somewhat baffling to a</span><a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bongland" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Bongland</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> ex-Lefty.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">More intelligible from my perspective was the session on ‘Worker Power’. Here, Oren Cass of</span><a href="https://americancompass.org/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">American Compass</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> joined Brian Dijkema of</span><a href="https://www.cardus.ca/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Cardus</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> and</span><a href="https://www.cardus.ca/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Sean McGarvey of NABTU</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> to discuss the sometimes vexed relationship between conservatism and trade unions. There’s been a lot of noise from the American Right about how the</span><a href="https://www.cardus.ca/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Republicans are now a multi-ethnic, working-class party</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, and Marco Rubio did </span><a href="https://www.cardus.ca/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span style="font-weight: 400;">endorse Amazon unionisation efforts in Alabama back in March</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Even so, the souvenir conference mugs were, somewhat ironically, made in China; and attendance at the ‘Worker Power’ session was sparse. This spoke to one of the conference’s real tensions: what relation does this would-be counter-elite actually have to the masses? One approach to this question came from Hungary’s soft-power outreach team, who were present in force at NatCon.</span><a href="https://twitter.com/balazsorban_hu"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Balázs Orbán</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, Minister of State to Prime Minister Viktor Orbán’s office (no relation), gave a presentation that positioned Hungary as a successful model for actually existing national conservatism.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Orbán boasted of Hungarian growth, lack of anti-semitic violence, church and synagogue renovation and improving birth rates. These, he argued, demonstrate that national conservatism with Hungarian characteristics is not, as Western liberals like to claim, a totalitarian dictatorship but in fact a popular regime that’s delivering what the Hungarian people want and need.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Whether you nod along with this framing of Fidesz probably depends on your political commitments. But from this perspective, an elite whose values are aligned with those of the masses can use authority to implement those values responsibly throughout the regime. What’s unclear, though, even among sympathetic conservatives, is how applicable the Orbánist model might be in the West — and particularly in America.</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">It’s relatively easy for a reigning elite to align values to state power in a homogeneous nation of 10 million people. It’s far from obvious how this might be achieved in a deliberately decentralised, pluralistic nation of 300 million people, with a highly individualistic founding ideology that’s constitutionally allergic to state-mandated values.</span></p>
<div class="ref-ar"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/10/will-magic-defeat-americas-elites/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/10/will-magic-defeat-americas-elites/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><img decoding="async" src="https://stage.unherd.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/2GettyImages-1251027057-scaled-1.jpg?w=300" /></a><div class="content"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/10/will-magic-defeat-americas-elites/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span class="meta">Suggested reading</span></a><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/10/will-magic-defeat-americas-elites/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><h5>Will magic defeat America&#039;s elites?</h5></a><p class="author"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/10/will-magic-defeat-americas-elites/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span>By</span> John Michael Greer</a></p></div></a></div>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Chris Rufo’s Leninist strategy for ‘counterrevolution’, which I’ve</span><a href="https://www.cardus.ca/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">discussed here</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">, offered part of the answer, in the playbook he proposed for getting American conservatives to win the culture wars. In Rufo’s view, the aim of such a counter-elite should be galvanising and providing language and representation for a mass that Rufo sees as subjected to the top-down imposition of alien values by a narcissistic, nihilistic Left-authoritarian state.</span><span style="font-weight: 400;"> </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Meanwhile, the writer</span><a href="https://www.cardus.ca/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"> <span style="font-weight: 400;">Mary Eberstadt</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;"> looked straight past Conservatism Inc., instead making a heartfelt address to Conservatism Ink in the name of shared values as such. She argued that the young have been robbed by ‘zero-sum progressivism’ of everything that gives life a ‘higher purpose’: family connections, faith, belonging, a cultural patrimony.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Taken together, Rufo’s right-Leninism and Eberstadt’s empathetic politics of meaningful relationships felt like the public and private facets of this movement’s better part. Eberstadt </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">brought a deeply matriarchal quality to proceedings. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">She’s emerging as a compassionate figure in a sometimes dour or combative 21</span><span style="font-weight: 400;">st</span><span style="font-weight: 400;">-century American conservatism, and I hope her voice continues to be heard — especially by the Conservatism Inkers her talk addressed. After all, Rufo’s Right-Leninist vanguardism in the name of shared conservative values will make little sense if it’s pursued in the name of a people who don’t actually have any shared values.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">But if Rufo and Eberstadt together comprise top-down and bottom-up facets of something approaching a workable, effective and ethically-grounded conservatism, there are plenty of other visions for where this version of the right goes next: Thielite space fascism, Bitcoin exitism, libertarian anti-wokeism, hard-edged nationalism, doctrinaire Catholic integralism or simply reabsorption by the neocon blob. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">It’s a heady and at many points self-contradictory brew, in which the central question — whose values? — remains undecided, a dilemma that will either prove the movement’s greatest strength or weakness.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">After three days in bat country, I stumbled to bed on the last night past a swarm of Conservatism Ink chanting ‘</span><a href="https://www.cardus.ca/" target="_blank" rel="noopener"><span style="font-weight: 400;">Let’s Go, Brandon</span></a><span style="font-weight: 400;">’ in the hotel bar. I left with an abiding sense that national conservatism has money behind it, but also plenty of punk energy and belligerence.</span></p>
<div class="ref-ar"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/11/why-the-left-wont-let-go-of-brandon/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/11/why-the-left-wont-let-go-of-brandon/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><img decoding="async" src="https://stage.unherd.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/11/GettyImages-1236149552-scaled-1.jpg?w=300" /></a><div class="content"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/11/why-the-left-wont-let-go-of-brandon/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span class="meta">Suggested reading</span></a><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/11/why-the-left-wont-let-go-of-brandon/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><h5>Why the Left won&#039;t let go of Brandon</h5></a><p class="author"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/11/why-the-left-wont-let-go-of-brandon/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span>By</span> Kat Rosenfield</a></p></div></a></div>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">As ever, money will play a huge part in what happens next. And there are plenty of boomercons with fat chequebooks, who would like to see room on the ark for at least ‘our’ kind of liberal. I</span>n particular, as far as the neocons are concerned, it’s noteworthy that there’s been <a href="https://twitter.com/johnnyburtka/status/1456667538037878785?s=21" target="_blank" rel="noopener">some</a> <a href="https://thecritic.co.uk/that-got-real-old-real-fast/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">debate</a> over whether foreign-policy realists were well enough represented on the roster — especially given how central debates over US military obligations have been to shifts on the Right since Trump.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">There are probably plenty as well who would like to see the more punk end of this movement defanged, and Conservatism Ink toned right down. </span><span style="font-weight: 400;">Meanwhile, the Gen-Z right-wingers now flocking to this corner of politics have altogether wilder and stranger ideas, that often owe more to the fringes of the Weird Online Right than the Founding Fathers. And they’re the ones with the energy: they still got up at 6am to lift. Even after all that bourbon. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-weight: 400;">Who will win? My best guess is that in the short term we’ll see this movement re-absorbed by the DC blob. Then there’ll be full-scale revolt by Conservatism Ink when they are, in aggregate, old enough to wield power. And then we really will be in bat country.</span></p>
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