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							<![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Batya Ungar-Sargon is the author, most recently, of <span id="productTitle" class="a-size-large celwidget" data-csa-c-id="h5r7xe-qvxb5a-l2ctea-b6eeq0" data-cel-widget="productTitle"><em>Second Class: How the Elites Betrayed America&#8217;s Working Men and Women</em>.</span></span></p>
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						<![CDATA[<span style="font-size: 12pt;">Batya Ungar-Sargon is the author, most recently, of <span id="productTitle" class="a-size-large celwidget" data-csa-c-id="h5r7xe-qvxb5a-l2ctea-b6eeq0" data-cel-widget="productTitle"><em>Second Class: How the Elites Betrayed America's Working Men and Women</em>.</span></span>]]>
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								<![CDATA[<p>In the story America tells about 9/11, the attack was a tragedy, but a tragedy that united the nation. “We were able to come together as a country at that terrible time; we put aside differences,” said Hillary Clinton on Sunday, the 21st anniversary. “I wish we could find ways of doing that again.”</p>
<p>Like the rest of America’s ruling class, Clinton fears we are hopelessly divided, possibly forever. The media tends to agree. <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Why-Were-Polarized-Ezra-Klein/dp/147670032X" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Books</a> and <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/26/opinion/covid-biden-trump-polarization.html?searchResultPosition=3" target="_blank" rel="noopener">op-eds</a> are churned out, hyping everything from the “polarisation spiral” to predictions of a coming civil war. We are <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/15/opinion/republicans-democracy-minority-rule.html?searchResultPosition=9" target="_blank" rel="noopener">past the point</a> of no return, pundits warn. Apparently even scholars of polarisation are polarised, <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/25/opinion/polarization-politics-red-blue-america.html?searchResultPosition=4" target="_blank" rel="noopener">according to the <em>New York Times</em></a><em>.</em> As <a href="https://grabien.com/story.php?id=390570?utm_source=cliplist&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=cliplist20220819&amp;utm_content=story390570" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Tiffany Cross put it</a> on her MSNBC show a few weeks ago: “People keep saying a civil war is coming. I would say a civil war is here. And I don’t mean to be hyperbolic.”</p>
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<p>The trouble it is, it <em>is</em> hyperbolic. It’s true that our political and media elites, and those who run corporations and Big Tech companies, are increasingly partisan. But that’s because they have a lot to gain — in terms of money and power — from making Americans hate each other. Nevertheless, despite the billions and billions of dollars being spent trying to divide us, polarisation remains an elite phenomenon. When it comes to the fundamental values this nation was founded on, Americans are much more united than they are divided.</p>
<p>The evidence is everywhere. Last week, for instance, <a href="https://news.gallup.com/poll/354638/approval-interracial-marriage-new-high.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Gallup</a> reported the latest approval rating for interracial marriage between black and white people. The polling company first started asking Americans about their feelings on the subject in 1958, when approval was an abysmal 4%. As of 2022, it stands at 94%, and there is almost no difference between white and non-white respondents. The regional difference has also evaporated. Southern Americans now approve of interracial marriage at the same rate as their eastern, Midwestern, and western neighbours. As recently as 1991, approval for interracial marriage in the south was at just 33%, compared to 54% in the east and 60% in the west. Today, those figures are 93%, 94%, and 97% respectively.</p>
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<p>You could argue that people haven’t become less racist, but simply less willing to admit their racism to pollsters. But even that is a huge leap forward. 93% of Southern Americans want pollsters, and presumably also their neighbours, to believe that they have the same views as the liberals they probably mocked just 20 years ago. Racism has become socially taboo.</p>
<p>Something similar has happened with gay marriage. Approval among Republicans has absolutely soared in recent years — from 16% in 1995 to 55% <a href="https://news.gallup.com/poll/350486/record-high-support-same-sex-marriage.aspx" target="_blank" rel="noopener">last year</a>, including <a href="https://www.statista.com/chart/1986/democrats-and-republicans-favoring-gay-marriage/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">61%</a> of young Republicans. Many believe that at least ten Senate Republicans will join the Democrats in enshrining the right to gay marriage into law. At a time of intense polarisation — when <a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/05/19/republicans-baby-formula/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">even baby formula divides the house</a> — this is a major feat.</p>
<p>And then there’s abortion, an issue that the media and our politicians assume is hugely divisive. In fact, the vast majority of Americans agree on the major points. They oppose abortion bans and want it to be generally legal in the first trimester, and in cases of rape, incest or where the mother’s health is threatened. On criminal justice, too, there is no longer a partisan divide. In recent years, Republicans have been at the forefront of criminal justice reform. Red states like Oklahoma, Georgia and Idaho have been quietly releasing prisoners and reforming their justice systems for the better part of a decade. Supreme Court justice Neil Gorsuch has consistently sided with liberal judges in criminal justice cases. And President Trump’s First Step Act released 5,000 black men from prison, although those <a href="https://www.newsweek.com/take-it-black-robin-hood-biden-more-racist-trump-opinion-1731598" target="_blank" rel="noopener">men</a> seem to be the only ones who took any notice.</p>
<div class="ref-ar"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/05/tribalism-has-come-to-the-west/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/05/tribalism-has-come-to-the-west/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><img decoding="async" src="https://stage.unherd.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/usdude.jpg?w=300" /></a><div class="content"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/05/tribalism-has-come-to-the-west/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span class="meta">Suggested reading</span></a><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/05/tribalism-has-come-to-the-west/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><h5>Tribalism has come to the West</h5></a><p class="author"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2021/05/tribalism-has-come-to-the-west/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span>By</span> Ayaan Hirsi Ali</a></p></div></a></div>
<p>Even when it comes to police brutality, Republicans have been becoming more vocal. In the wake of George Floyd’s murder in 2020, the South Carolina Senator <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/29/us/politics/congress-hearings-racial-violence-police-force.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Lindsey Graham announced</a> he was seeking proposals to improve policing and combat “racial discrimination regarding the use of force”. Soon after, Senator Tim Scott, the only black Republican senator, introduced a police reform bill — which was later killed by Democrats.</p>
<p>Scott and Graham were joined by none other than the then-leader of the Republican Senate majority, Mitch McConnell, who <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/09/us/politics/republicans-police-reform.html?smid=tw-share" target="_blank" rel="noopener">told reporters</a> in the wake of Floyd’s murder: “We are still wrestling with America’s original sin. It is perfectly clear we are a long way from the finish line.” And at a lunch for Republican senators, Tom Cotton of Arkansas <a href="https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1270434560334012417?s=20&amp;t=0ksQctEV0-cpIBGFNT4-xQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener">stood up and said:</a> “Young Black men have a very different experience with law enforcement in this nation than white people, and that’s their impression and experience, and we need to be sensitive to that and do all we can to change it.”</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the most vocal Democrats on the subject are those who support progressive prosecutors and bail reform efforts — policies often billed as divisive. But they are not divisive; they are just wildly unpopular <em>—</em> like Republican efforts to ban abortion in all cases. Democrat and Republican Americans alike oppose these measures, especially now, amid a crime wave. Our elites want us to believe these issues divide Americans, but they simply don’t.</p>
<p>The Pew Research Center <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2022/08/09/as-partisan-hostility-grows-signs-of-frustration-with-the-two-party-system/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">recently released a study</a> that they claimed showed signs of “partisan hostility” growing. “Growing shares of both Republicans and Democrats say members of the other party are more immoral, dishonest, closed-minded than other Americans,” the study claimed to find. But <a href="https://mail-attachment.googleusercontent.com/attachment/u/0/?ui=2&amp;ik=aca2785aaa&amp;attid=0.1&amp;permmsgid=msg-f:1740798106925358985&amp;th=18288ea7b4f55f89&amp;view=att&amp;disp=inline&amp;sadnir=1&amp;saddbat=ANGjdJ811z1M3TaRZ5Kr523h-WyOC3cF5KhmYJxBAcRrHiRrvtPo_kO06Yjg3pRta8yvAEBcBFUHMdWwMN-FBOnHX8nRWImHR-Rej38HSQrpWy7sTR7yJ3w-9jIFk4nmJsHV5MIgBg47EOwyNBx4rmwzK9-FKswjF1h9na47EbZfG0tqvbcpPKYyLbDR3uJRTOL5QhFanAE-6J6_MBn2iuoz7jNcZ9mgHVFYaHLEQvwvPH_IDs95ZKtM2qFuF-gGlZMpKbYgCMv0r5B6NyTJaHDi84WQulXZWtp1k4n1vcpeQDaS5e4VomvPOM26XxhATF8YcRD0mqavuujGGbohZlrliuDLCnJeET7Kh3CgC6eqBPupCC8Z83ZnuJXkBWT8fdol7uPThiIlQXVa-nUpvm7FhR5ZZE3-AkJUjOCqc6Hv2VrgYHMo_NXC8kOjYB4EGLndzqd82dSvosfTxz81eox0pR5ECjCd21OW6N2S-aJrWbg8OzvXo1bR16bMQ6SqK3SSl1TaSwAoLZn4VUfUB0riWRvXO9mA3j_v1sOY7WeLJL3tqR7juD64dDDS4InMlaGelvK8we2jMZj2pE5s6JjPdJUmRTE-nQk1-NDAN4k1se-5J4dHLWMnerMtGyaAz4b3hOiEWi7jMXoz_DSAOzgezlM_mhM6zOkOv-WcCNul8xHo18IMw8ZDu-3fiv_5-cjHyOqN9qfINGMMRZgKCRlO7oGrlLmcE2k1s5ZqzoIxmAdSJv6t6PeRnEQOcJDu8H9m85o5caS2pGvvdC1knFIcyseQUqulP3BkchbQ88curV0qu6ZmbYoh8ZMQ4wLViDThG4EA0TlRFob23ZP7" target="_blank" rel="noopener">the questions</a> they asked respondents weren’t about members of the other party as much as they were about the parties themselves, or politicians: “Do you have a favourable or unfavourable opinion of the Republican Party, or the Democratic Party?”; “How well do each of the following phrases describe the Republican or Democrat Party?”; “How much do you like or dislike Republican or Democrat political leaders who…” People aren’t turning on their fellow Americans so much as they are on political parties and leaders.</p>
<div class="ref-ar"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2022/07/america-needs-to-calm-down/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2022/07/america-needs-to-calm-down/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><img decoding="async" src="https://stage.unherd.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/2GettyImages-633597134-scaled-e1657022213456.jpg?w=300" /></a><div class="content"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2022/07/america-needs-to-calm-down/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span class="meta">Suggested reading</span></a><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2022/07/america-needs-to-calm-down/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><h5>America needs to calm down</h5></a><p class="author"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2022/07/america-needs-to-calm-down/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span>By</span> Simon Cottee</a></p></div></a></div>
<p>And it’s not just this study that suggests so; <a href="https://mail-attachment.googleusercontent.com/attachment/u/1/?ui=2&amp;ik=e4d7e2c4ce&amp;attid=0.2&amp;permmsgid=msg-f:1739722509299935618&amp;th=1824bc679e92e982&amp;view=att&amp;disp=inline&amp;realattid=f_l66y4kqd1&amp;saddbat=ANGjdJ_BmO4uyfO4jIqzTZQW5wNYC-sGMYQKBkkeBgCBZDrnJmDO3XVeD29bXvczICw6VvLmEr-igY02f8HUR4BO_OgUSdgYSx46bsv6Utb-z5lmxxPFBJZi1AEe-COEjJFJHMN_r44VTgIBsyhFWF93hSyUc2xIj-OyUfnBxHXOl88GwbKqanGLWVtNEGTX9pjcwdrIXFwpwGqR2QDxMR1IQzMh40MVGjdlgwNbLvVRu2NIFlgWtK_6eRVqPPiuujhpbblH-aFKAUZT4QJM38dzPTXs5KnEUPl74bXPKZu-764CgkWV74Av4NkWHEO02WoSMulJWFcJBTZ2cjxas2T6wO7a0GLqKG404VJB0WrDdOZcWsWazsJ8gssaTynvSnHjtL5OlvDiVY6mzlemn9qPjkj2M2eebJc2cAs9JK3rBuGCZVk3OUcBxflMu3i0eKy1s5c-97Z-pCnRsoDoGOSs9vGsUZllJrRfVlCUoAkZqmKN9VVT0cxz0k2xrHc4EDOVtbBHu5rjCkQiPfR_aU2qgxsKtkHDd8nMlNQLCHKe0-asC4zqUIx0qBcwqeat3zZT1MJTrGbBVyQ_vgYMqwARMa93BNnzj4kt455sST5H6fiMhB2-XhroSu1kRmzxCcNc6rsOMOlmcnlTS9uPjUZibuusGcuI3rbx9fJcU4R0aJGVnaQMVZBkkXq21usVyIygDe6tLo3MrGlCtY50C1TaWq-KO59jqVMIpFZMh47T8IS7t0SX40KtK5pVkuj4UuGQoBqT28IrzpNbK3oFyx4hcHSDbA7DdfdaiS0sJlKvQOoiEIhVmMlY-g7KoQqZu6k-wIQA9i13CYQ-XecI" target="_blank" rel="noopener">a 2019 study</a> by James Druckman and Matthew Levendusky in <em>Public Opinion Quarterly </em>found that “when answering questions about the other party, individuals think about elites more than voters”. When the elites of the party were separated out from average Americans, the researchers found that on every measure, “respondents are more negative toward the elites of the other party than they are toward voters”. And Anthony Fowler, a professor of Public Policy at the University of Chicago, has done numerous studies that fly in the face of the polarisation narrative, finding that voters are more moderate, more informed by policy, and more willing to change their views than many in power would have you to believe. “To be sure, there are real policy disagreements among Americans,” <a href="https://www.smerconish.com/exclusive-content/how-political-polling-can-reflect-americas-moderate-majority" target="_blank" rel="noopener">writes Fowler</a>. “But for every extreme liberal or conservative who agrees with their party on most issues, there are far more people in the middle who think that Nancy Pelosi is too far to the Left <em>and </em>that Mitch McConnell is too far to the Right.”</p>
<p>Every week, I talk to working-class Americans across the country who work with people who disagree with them on politics. They tell me the same thing over and over: we don’t have the luxury of hating co-workers who vote for the other party. We rely on them too much. Party politics just doesn’t matter as much as having a good working relationship. It&#8217;s our elites who want us to believe that we are divided, simply because it benefits them.</p>
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<p>It’s clear how this works in politics: if you can convince you constituents that the person you’re running against is a fascist — or a groomer — then the race is over. Because if the choice is you or Hitler, you pretty much have it in the bag. And if you can also convince people that your opponents’ supporters and voters are fascists and deplorables, who cling to their guns and their Bibles and their bigotries, well, who wants to be in that category? Divisiveness in politics is a shortcut — a workaround to actually having to deliver the promises you make your constituents.</p>
<p>Something similar has happened to the mainstream media. With the collapse of the local newspaper industry, a new business model has emerged that is diametrically opposed to the goal of getting the widest circulation. The business incentives of digital media see success in terms of engagement rather than circulation or ad revenue, and the tools of digital media make it possible to target content to specific audiences based on income and zip code. Online publishing software tells you exactly what these audiences are clicking on, how often, and for how long — so you can give readers more and more and more of it. Of course, the most engaged readers online are always the most extreme, which means that our news outlets gain most by catering to them.</p>
<p>Social media companies work in a similar way. The currency there is attention, and the stronger you feel about something, the longer you stay on a page dedicated to it, and the more likely you are to click on an ad. Every time you hate a stranger on the internet, someone makes money.</p>
<p>At a time when the death of Elizabeth II is uniting her nation in grief, it’s hard to watch our own head of state fall into this trap. President Biden — who campaigned on unifying the country, and promised to represent not only those who voted for him but also those who did not — has made a habit of casting his political opponents as extremists. Recently, for instance, he has smeared MAGA Republicans as “semi-fascists” and a threat to democracy. Not exactly the behaviour of a unifier.</p>
<p>The thing that was miraculous about the response to 9/11 was not that Americans united, because we were not divided. It’s that our leaders did: they showed the grace that ordinary Americans show every single day, working alongside each other in nursing homes in Florida and factories in Iowa and construction sites in Minnesota. For once, our leaders were worthy of our support. For once, they were representing us. Today, by contrast, they simply demand that we defend them — to the extend that it means indulging in meaningless fantasies about a looming civil war.</p>
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					<title>Is Ireland falling out of love with the Pope?</title>
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						<![CDATA[Catherine Pepinster]]>
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							<![CDATA[Voters in Dublin celebrate the result of the Irish abortion referendum. Credit: Charles McQuillan/Getty Images]]>
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							<![CDATA[<p>Catherine Pepinster is the former editor of The Tablet and author of The Keys and The Kingdom: the British and the papacy from John Paul II to Francis.</p>
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						<![CDATA[Catherine Pepinster is the former editor of The Tablet and author of The Keys and The Kingdom: the British and the papacy from John Paul II to Francis.]]>
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								<![CDATA[<p>When Pope Benedict XVI landed in Scotland at the start of his visit to the UK in 2010, members of his entourage on board the papal plane were jittery. There had been protests about Benedict’s visit in the run-up to his arrival, from people angered by the cost to the taxpayer and by the Catholic Church’s track record on abuse. But as his motorcade swept into Edinburgh en route to meet the Queen at Holyrood, there was a sigh of relief. People were out in force on the route into the capital city, not protesting but waving.</p>
<p>On Saturday Pope Francis will also arrive by plane, this time in Ireland, for a whirlwind trip to what was once one of the Catholic Church’s greatest strongholds in Europe. If Vatican officials were a trifle nervous about secular Britain’s welcome to a Pope, they must surely be quaking now. For once-Catholic Ireland has been transformed in the past 40 years, embracing divorce, contraception, same-sex marriage, and most recently reform to allow limited legalisation of abortion.</p>
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<p>It was once very different. When John Paul II visited Ireland in 1979, more than half the population came out to greet him. The churches were packed. Seminaries boomed; Ireland still had so many priests that they were a major export to both the developing world and to the far smaller Catholic community in Britain.</p>
<p>That has <a href="https://www.rte.ie/eile/brainstorm/2018/0821/986468-after-francis-whats-the-future-for-the-church-in-ireland/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">changed</a>: in 1979, 93% of the population identified as Catholic, but by 2016, according to the census, that figure was just 78%. Two surveys, one in 2006 and one in 2012, found just 35% attend Mass weekly.</p>
<p>As the Archbishop of Dublin, Diarmuid Martin said, when details of Pope Francis’ visit were first announced, the trip is happening “as the Church in Ireland struggles to find a new place in Irish society and culture – a very different one from the dominant one it held in the past”.</p>
<div class="ref-ar"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2018/08/abuse-survivors-deserve-pope-francis/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2018/08/abuse-survivors-deserve-pope-francis/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><img decoding="async" src="https://stage.unherd.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/GettyImages-940265752.jpg?w=300" /></a><div class="content"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2018/08/abuse-survivors-deserve-pope-francis/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span class="meta">Further reading</span></a><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2018/08/abuse-survivors-deserve-pope-francis/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><h5>Abuse survivors deserve more from Pope Francis</h5></a><p class="author"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2018/08/abuse-survivors-deserve-pope-francis/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span>By</span> Peter Saunders</a></p></div></a></div>
<p>Part of that culture change is due to the scandals that have beset the Catholic Church in Ireland in recent years and their heavy shadows hang over Pope Francis’ visit. There has been revelation after revelation that tested so many people’s faith: of terrible cruelty to vulnerable women in the Magdalene laundries, sent there because they became pregnant out of wedlock; forced adoptions of children of unmarried mothers; the scandal of sexual abuse of children by priests and its consequent cover-ups.</p>
<p>It is no wonder then that this stain on the Church’s reputation is one of the biggest issues on people’s agenda for the papal visit, according to <a href="https://www.associationofcatholicpriests.ie/2018/08/results-of-the-acp-papal-visit-survey-2018/">recent research</a> by the Association of Catholic Priests (ACP) in Ireland. And after similarly dreadful clerical abuse scandals elsewhere coming to light in the run-up to the visit, it became inevitable that Francis would have to meet abuse survivors during his 36-hour trip. (This meeting was only announced on Tuesday.)</p>
<p>The ACP survey also indicates what a chasm has opened up in Ireland between the hierarchy and Mass-goers. They have had enough of the clerical culture – the way in which many priests and bishops see themselves as a special, privileged caste with a sacred status bestowed on them at ordination. And despite the reforms of the Second Vatican Council, which confirmed all the baptised as the people of God, participating in the mission of the Church, the laity often feel they are treated as if they are at the bottom of the ecclesiastical ladder.</p>
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<p>But the greatest priority among those surveyed is a role for women in a patriarchal Church that is lagging behind other Christian denominations in using their talents and experience by maintaining a male-only priesthood.</p>
<p>And yet Ireland hasn’t entirely given up on the Church. Cultural and sentimental attachment means Catholics still turn to it for rites of passage: for baptisms, for weddings and for funerals. First Holy Communions, complete with parties, costly designer dresses, and purring limos, are still huge family occasions.</p>
<p>No wonder, then, that despite complaining about clerical culture, Irish people I’ve spoken to –some ‘cultural Catholics’ as well as regular Mass-goers – also fret about a shortage of pastors who can give them spiritual succour. With just one seminary left in Ireland and most priests over the age of 60, the unthinkable might happen: churches may close.</p>
<div class="ref-ar"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2018/05/ireland-ready-feminist-revolution/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2018/05/ireland-ready-feminist-revolution/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><img decoding="async" src="https://stage.unherd.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/PA-35426637.jpg?w=300" /></a><div class="content"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2018/05/ireland-ready-feminist-revolution/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span class="meta">Further reading</span></a><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2018/05/ireland-ready-feminist-revolution/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><h5>If you&#039;re a woman, Ireland couldn&#039;t be less liberal</h5></a><p class="author"><a href="https://stage.unherd.com/2018/05/ireland-ready-feminist-revolution/?edition=us&#038;ref=refinnar" class="text-decoration-none border-0"><span>By</span> Julie Bindel</a></p></div></a></div>
<p>No doubt aware of how much Francis needs to reach out to Ireland, Vatican officials are risking the possibility of protests, or disinterest, and adding to his itinerary a drive through Dublin in his Popemobile. Those officials must be pinning their hopes on Francis’ undoubted charisma, though even that no longer works the wonders it used to, due to what is increasingly seen as lack of action on abuse, and doubts that Francis does not fully understand the depths of distress the scandal is causing.</p>
<p>But if the Church is to not just survive, but thrive, in Ireland, he will need to quickly understand how much it has changed since he lived there himself, studying English, in 1980. Nothing will make that so apparent as his brief meeting with the Taoiseach, Leo Varadkar, an openly gay man at the helm of a nation that voted for same-sex marriage.</p>
<p>Pope Francis, once asked about gay people, famously replied “<a href="https://www.ncronline.org/news/vatican/francis-explains-who-am-i-judge">Who am I to judge</a>?” Newly confident Ireland, which no longer perceives Catholicism as integral to its national identity, has in recent years judged its own bishops to be wanting. This may well be the moment when it judges Pope Francis too.</p>
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